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BNC Lotteries/Raffles/Giveaways/Tombolas

Posted by cro on Sunday 24 November 2002

Recently a number of channels have been closed because of BNC lotteries. QuakeNet considers Lotteries, Giveaways, Raffles or "Tombolas" to be a form of advertising, as these events are usually associated with the gathering of people within a channel, and they are also considered a form of Spam, as users are encouraged to advertise the event in other channels.

Both Advertising and Spamming are specifically against QuakeNet's rules, and so we do not allow BNC lotteries on QuakeNet.

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Hooray!

Al_Berto said on Sunday 24 November 2002

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m00ny said on Sunday 24 November 2002

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LaMersSs said on Sunday 24 November 2002

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[Jimmeh] said on Sunday 24 November 2002

kempa you dont know what you say! i hate so ppl where thinking there are the best during only with the reason that they hate the chan.... TZ came back if you know what you said

djdomi said on Sunday 24 November 2002

i think its not fair to close the channels...u could tell them that the had to stop advertising(spamming) for there lotterys....and u have to write the rules exactly down to the rules...i hope u reopen all channs....thx cya greetz fire

eTp`cs|51 said on Sunday 24 November 2002

This activity hit us pretty much by surprise. It seems as though as soon as 1 channel started it every other channel wanting users decided it was a good idea. Because there was no announcement most channel closures were for a period of 1 hour only (cut out the reason for the spam and the spam stops). However now that an announcement has been made there is no reason to plead ignorance :)

Specceh said on Sunday 24 November 2002

incidently, the news comments is not the place to complain about a particular channel, hence the denied comments :)

Specceh said on Sunday 24 November 2002

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eTp`cs|51 said on Sunday 24 November 2002

#usu were warned about the rule more than 12 hours BEFORE the channel was closed. you specifically CANNOT plead ignorance - or does my channel log from #usu lie?

cro said on Sunday 24 November 2002

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eTp`cs|51 said on Sunday 24 November 2002

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eTp`cs|51 said on Sunday 24 November 2002

#9 and #11. We will not discuss individual channels on the comments system. talk to Cro on irc please.

Specceh said on Sunday 24 November 2002

Good. A decent policy on all this spamming recently.

James[UH] said on Sunday 24 November 2002

Will the Quakenet Opers not tell the Chan Owners / Admins to stop it \"now\" or will they just join the Chan and BADCHANNEL it without telling it to the Admins of the Channel ? I hope they will first contact the Admins to stop it \"now\" ! That is my Opinion ! Plz think about it ! Thanks ! Chuckeh

Chuckeh said on Monday 25 November 2002

good decision ;)

matu said on Monday 25 November 2002

At last! At last! Yay!

cricetus said on Monday 25 November 2002

Finally, these lotteries have been nothing but a pain in the ass for us who host a \"leagal\" friends only BNC. It is a shame that it has gone so far that you have had to shutdown trustaddition.

|VK|Sorcer said on Monday 25 November 2002

By surprise? Dude, like, this is happening for around, a real lot of months now. Quakenet opers meet Quakenet. :)

raz said on Monday 25 November 2002

\"BNC lotteries\" rofl, what will they fink of next :oP

[Stalker] said on Monday 25 November 2002

yes, one guess where these lotteries\' organisers come from.

raz said on Monday 25 November 2002

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blun4 said on Monday 25 November 2002

btw, next do not change any rules, but update the page! =)

blun4 said on Monday 25 November 2002

very nice rule! :)

Trc|haTe said on Monday 25 November 2002

Yeah these lotteries with their advertising and low-quality-bouncers are pretty annoying, so this rule is a good addition to the existing rules.

Jack-The-Ripper said on Monday 25 November 2002

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[SMF]Barracuda said on Monday 25 November 2002

Thats one more reason for loving qnet!

Torben said on Monday 25 November 2002

That was not the first time Deckard acted in such a unpolite way, but that is not the thread to complain about IRCOps. I think this new rule is great. The spamming like \"BNC verlosung in #channel um 20h !!!\" every 5 minutes was horrible !

[AB]_Neo|mIRC said on Monday 25 November 2002

hmm. this maybe nice if you got rid of the bnc tombolas but in my case its horrible \'cause i did not win my bnc in a tombola or some stuff. i got this bouncer by the leader / sponsor of my counterstrike clan and its not nice not having access to it any more. because it seems you just closed some of the bncs like mine. imho the bnc\'s of my clanmates work fine. i think this is a good rule at all but it is not good to kill the bouncers \"randomly\". maybe you find a way to there\'s a better way.

w-are-z`m47r1x said on Monday 25 November 2002

#29 perhaps you should consider problems on your side - if a bouncer doesn\'t work, that doesn\'t have to be QuakeNet\'s fault.

JaSt said on Monday 25 November 2002

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w-are-z`m47r1x said on Monday 25 November 2002

mhh i wanted to say that we wont do evil deeds in making a Lotteries....i mean most of the people like Lotteries and wanted to win some :>...

eTp`cs|51 said on Monday 25 November 2002

#30 a k-line is not my problem imho

w-are-z`m47r1x said on Monday 25 November 2002

#32 Well, the ground thoughts of lotteries are not bad, but when a channel gives out poor quality bouncers, just to get their channel spammed across half of the net, it is bad. And when channels do it just to get idlers in the channel, it is really bad. I\'m almost sure of that 99.99% of all lotteries are started of these reasons, therefore 99.99% of the lotteries on Quakenet are bad, an evil deed.

|VK|Sorcer said on Monday 25 November 2002

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eTp`cs|51 said on Monday 25 November 2002

Is a \"lotterie\" allowed if you tell the people not to spam, advertise and not to make amsg\'s.

felo said on Monday 25 November 2002

Lotteries by their very nature encourage spam, and once it stops its almost impossible to stop (its interesting that many of the involved channels were moderated so THEY did not suffer the spam others were forced to endure). You are advised not to start any activity which relies on gaining a high user count in the channel where it would not normally be that high.

Specceh said on Monday 25 November 2002

Hey I got banned from Quakenet tonight. Some guy was spamming with lottery and soccer crap, so I told\'m to shove it or I\'d report him. Next thing I know I got disconnected and now I can\'t connect anymore (\"Oper Abuse.\"). Sounds to me that some opers are in this as well. Well, get me unbanned anyway, u can see who did it I assume, and punish that bastard. Faine and Fermoo or something I donnow, those were the two who spammed, and I talked to Fermoo or Fengo or whatever..

Deleon said on Monday 25 November 2002

yes, its a good idea, but, i think you should be not so angry about this little spam. with good greets from stuttgart (germany) Alexander Staniura 0wn3r of a ShellProvider.

|GEF|aXe said on Monday 25 November 2002

Yes it´s a good idea. I think spam uses many Traffic on the Servers and i know, traffic costs much...

commx said on Monday 25 November 2002

BNC/Shell lotteries Running competitions or lotteries to give away IRC bouncers or shell accounts will result in the channel involved being closed, and possibly the removal or banning of the trust involved. If the channel operators concerned advertise the channel, or ask other people to advertise the channel, these channel operators may also recieve a network ban. -------------- hmm... seems to me that most of quakenet\'s users have never ever taken a look at the rules.. :)

ones|miKe said on Tuesday 26 November 2002

In my opinion it\'s also a pretty good rule... maybe it stops the huge spamming caused by these lotteries... #15: As I\'ve seen it IRCOps join the channel, warn the channel operators and tell them to stop and if they do NOT do it, the channel gets glined...

skater_x said on Tuesday 26 November 2002

mhmm why does Qnet close a chan when they do Lotteries? If a network can`t handle such a count of amsg or users in a chan they don`t have to close the chan, they have to find the problem why their network can`t handle that! Many people support QNet when they connect to it and they have the right to do a Lotterie and son on... So if QNet doesnt change that i think many people go to another network there are 1000 out there.. think about it Qnet Ops

meSkalin said on Tuesday 26 November 2002

#43 The Network can handle it, however more than 99% of the users on this network do not want to be a part of the resulting spam and advertising.

Ferg said on Tuesday 26 November 2002

#43 god, think. \"We\" don\'t want spam or such, this is IRC god damnit. People want to TALK, have conversation. That can\'t be done, with everyone spamming their asses off with away scripts, I\'m playing at x, scripts, join my Q channel to get Q or I\'ll give you voice if you bring ten people. Imo S should be in every channel with 100+ persons and it should strike harder on advertising, first warn then kill!

kjuze said on Tuesday 26 November 2002

Yeah but then people would maybe advertise in lots of small chans to get 100 idlers for S, which wouldn\'t really solve the problem of advertising.

Jack-The-Ripper said on Tuesday 26 November 2002

#44: But think about the 99% who don\'t know why they cant join their fafourite chanel. Most of the irc-user even dont know the rules. So it will take a long time until everyone knows about \'lotteries\' and their reasons. If the IRC-OPs continue, closing chanels in this kind, they have to close more then 20% of al the chanels.

kritzi said on Tuesday 26 November 2002

at last you finaly did it... Hope its a way to a nearly spam-free Q.net

]GBC|Dark[ said on Tuesday 26 November 2002

äy :( why is my comment denied? it was a simple nice-rule-comment :((

blun4 said on Tuesday 26 November 2002

Well, had users bothered to read the rules (as are the conditions of connecting to quakenet) they would have known that spamming was against the rules and so they have no real excuse against being banned and #39, advertising in #help every 5 minutes was starting to annoy people (and about 50% was for BNC lotteries)

salteh said on Tuesday 26 November 2002

#49 You mentioned a channel name. As I said earlier in the thread, we wont either comment on or hold up individual examples on the website comment system. Every channel is entitled to an objective look by an oper, not mob rule :) tho you are of course allowed to mail concerns to info@quakenet.org

Specceh said on Tuesday 26 November 2002

hi i like this new rule and i hope that some things (like getting a Q) will be harder too. ATM Qnet has 140K users and 130K channels.... (the second biggest network has 130K users and 50K) With all these bouncers the network will get bigger and too complex to work => see all the netsplits?

HBboy said on Tuesday 26 November 2002

#45 Imho the features of a S bot should be implemented in every Q without a switch to turn it off if thats possible with the current free resources. It would be nice if the staff could give a statement what will happen to the S bot. the only information we have is that \"it\'s not available this time\" since many months now...

[AB]_Neo|mIRC said on Wednesday 27 November 2002

If the ops from an channel doesn\'t started advertising their bnc giva away, but the user in that channel start to spam all over to da QuakeNet what happens then ? Would this channel be closed ? Or do you consider it that not an channel op started the advertising spam ?

akaShifty said on Wednesday 27 November 2002

#54 Each case is taken individually. If ops take no action to prevent the spam (and setting +m in their own channel is not action) then it will count against them.

Specceh said on Wednesday 27 November 2002

#53 wouldnt work, Q can\'t handle it, it\'s not coded for this much users...

kjuze said on Wednesday 27 November 2002

finally! (:

[bot] said on Wednesday 27 November 2002

Nice! That are very good news :>

evil_Fighter said on Wednesday 27 November 2002

#53 except #56 it would be really irritating to get killed/g-lined everytime you talk about a channel in a Q channel. If you haven\'t noticed, there are actually messages containing channel names that are not advertise.

|VK|Sorcer said on Wednesday 27 November 2002

#45 -person1:\"how was channel of mavericks?\" -person2:\"#mvclan.de\" person2 was killed by S ...

felo said on Wednesday 27 November 2002

i am \"working\" for an internet radio on qnet and we do lotteries or whatever you call it sometimes. ok, now we are disallowed to do this, but if we start a lotterie over the internet, on our website, how do we take care of ppl advertising it on the qnet? and if we cannot do this are we taken for responsibility if ppl start to adv our chan? We never forced anyone to make adv for our chan. We do NOT encourage ppl to do so and we do NOT tolerate any spammers or advertisers in our channel.

tt|phexter said on Wednesday 27 November 2002

Well in this case opers normally should punish the users and not you as they are fair.

Jack-The-Ripper said on Wednesday 27 November 2002

rodd n1 :)

cYr4kz said on Wednesday 27 November 2002

yeah ! it\'s a good addition :)

Maastaaa said on Wednesday 27 November 2002

Fear the bingolotto

[Darko] said on Wednesday 27 November 2002

#62 well ok ;) actually i was more concerned about the fact that it\'s pretty not an effective way of stopping ads by just prohibit lotteries. imho it\'s better to just punish spammers as usual or be more concerned of spamming (ads as well) in general.

tt|phexter said on Wednesday 27 November 2002

next thing you stop will be live matches or what? yes quakenet will get more and more boring ...

xP-c0re said on Thursday 28 November 2002

i got something more, why dont you add some source to the ircdcode that any kind of spam will just not been sent to any channel with a certain chanflag like the color code +c ?

xP-c0re said on Thursday 28 November 2002

#67/68 - Yeah, would be nice if you could develope a 100% reliable system to do that. That is hardly possible and would probably take ages of developement time to become really reliable. Only think of the routines needed to be able to decide wheather it\'s spam or not - and sending every message through these routines would eat system resources like hell.

chronoss said on Thursday 28 November 2002

#69 - develop is spelled without \'e\'. Thank you.

chronoss said on Thursday 28 November 2002

good day makes which against the drawing by lots however it forbid? what have you of it? which does not disturb you actually to it I verstehs genuinly

criler said on Thursday 28 November 2002

The new rulz are great , but how can we check if our customers are breaking Qnet Rulz ? is an tool existing that can check it ?. i cant stay 24 H a day in the #feds and ask every minute if one of our cusumers abuse the Qner rulz.

]ct[-Bleifish said on Friday 29 November 2002

This not good, many Clans buys Bouncer for an Lotterie. Why iss that against the quakenet ruls?

[HABACK]Sil3nt said on Friday 29 November 2002

hmm the rule is fine, but there are lots of tricks going around it. eg: as i where reading this comments, i watched a user advertising in a chan for an lotterie (authname fl4xX btw) and i told him that its not allowed. So he made a new message: [14:01:28] <+fl4xX> holt idler in #(no i dont say the chan, no ads :D) und es gibt für ein paar leute belohnungen! in english: get idlers in my chan and some of the users will get a present. And I think this is a kind of lotterie or ? is this abused

fuldi said on Friday 29 November 2002

its godd :)

esport|av0r said on Friday 29 November 2002

#74 yes we are very much aware that users often try to trick opers into punishing someone else. No oper should take action unless the case is clear and proven. We have means of independently checking some things, and where we can\'t it falls to the oper to decide if he believes the available evidence.

Specceh said on Friday 29 November 2002

#73, because BNC\'s are mean\'t to be bought not \"given\" by hasard.

anzuhan said on Friday 29 November 2002

I want a Vote for this Rule at this HP!! Becouse this is very unfair for the people that no can BNC´s afford!! PLZ makes such a Vote!!! Maggi @ #Team-DKA Thanks

KtS|Maggi said on Friday 29 November 2002

I also want a vote! I think that this Tombolas are very good!... I WANT A VOTE ON THIS HP FOR THE RULE!!!

o^[Azi] said on Friday 29 November 2002

How do i get a BNC? :)

MumacH said on Friday 29 November 2002

#78 My bouncer is bought and it mine costs 30 euros per year... unaffordable? I am not going to tell the name of the company, but it\'s the most cheap I found and it gives me good service it\'s not low quality. How much do you spend per month in drinks, and things like that? The price of bouncers isn\'t a excuse to prove the lotteries imo.

ZombiekE said on Friday 29 November 2002

#80: Buy one from a shellprovider. Find a shellprovider from your own country, then buy a bouncer or a shell there. It may be a good idea to compare prices...

CheF^ said on Saturday 30 November 2002

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KtS|Maggi said on Saturday 30 November 2002

people, please. Tombolas put a huge load on the network which just makes it all slower and stuff. And all this advertising for channels is extremely annonying anyway. Additionally, this rule has been added to keep the network stable - I don\'t think it will be removed just because you don\'t like it. Don\'t expect any votes about it either.

JaSt said on Saturday 30 November 2002

The advertising for the Channels disturbs really no people!! Which load then??? One can buy the BNC´s also!!

KtS|Maggi said on Saturday 30 November 2002

#82: Thanks

MumacH said on Saturday 30 November 2002

#85: advertising channels annoys me and hundreds of other people I know, even though you might like it. The additional load on the servers is caused by exactly this advertising. Picture all the /amsgs flying around all the time, that\'d make a several megs of traffic for big channels. If you want to go on discussing why this rule makes sense, please have a look at the forum, as this is a comments-only zone (yeah I know, I\'m neglecting that as well ;)).

JaSt said on Saturday 30 November 2002

Having a bouncer is not illegal. The mass advertising on QNet for commercial gain is though, and this is what this is about. Listen guys, many of the bnc providers are kiddies who have just bought a server somewhere and are using the network to make a bit of cash. You should be VERY careful who you take a bnc off as even if it is free. We have had, just for a small example, abuse cases of bnc providers logging users and allowing these logs to be stolen, giving away peoples QAuth passwords.

Specceh said on Saturday 30 November 2002

QuakeNet for ever!

Maddamz said on Saturday 30 November 2002

lol - yet again, Qnet acting like it some type of strict school - Yeah k, i dont get involved with these channels etc, but its one in 1000000 stupid rules you have, ahh well never mind - s\'pose ull be setting up detention channels next (yes im aware that this will be deleted)

Jetset said on Saturday 30 November 2002

lol yet again - juust seen aftr i posted this : Dont be rude. Dont advertise. (i.e channels, sites or other things) Stick to the subject. This is no chatboard. Tags such as HTML or UBB does NOT work. Plain text only. Speak english since this is a multilanguage network. *laugh*

Jetset said on Saturday 30 November 2002

#90, if you think all the rules are stupid use another network, noone\'s holding a gun to your head

Zip said on Saturday 30 November 2002

Wie wers den mal mit Deutsch News weil wiso 80 des Quakeland Deutsch sind ..

Lo-cu-tus said on Saturday 30 November 2002

#93: You maybe should learn to write German beforehand. English is the net\'s language. Go away if you don\'t like it.

cricetus said on Saturday 30 November 2002

If you thought more about your comments, you would know that there are a lot more people speaking english than german. English is Quakenet\'s main language so it\'s used for the news.

Jack-The-Ripper said on Sunday 01 December 2002

I don\'t want to say i don\'t like this rule but why don\'t add something like the color blocker (i don\'t now how it works) that reacts as someone says a # in channels so it displays \"Cannot send to Channel.\" Then if someone NEEDS to say something with a hash he must use Notice/MSG to a User. BTW: There should be something against Channel Notices as well...

[VoA]Migga said on Sunday 01 December 2002

I think this is just another step in the right direction. As for now, Quakenet is a cool place to be, and here\'s alot of nice people to talk to. Nice work so far opers :)

BeerMaN said on Sunday 01 December 2002

#93: Maybe you should also read the text above your nick, when writing a comment. #96: Might be ok, but what about people who want to say they\'re CS Clan #1 in the world for example? Or what about C/C++ channels, when someone is asking for help with this includes? And last but not least: what about #help and #feds? These channels REALLY need channel names to solve some problems, so maybe a channelmode against hashes would be ok... Blocking channel notices shouldn\'t be a problem...

skater_x said on Sunday 01 December 2002

Who everything a Vote have wants to write to that would end of the massage! : MEE want a vote, too

KtS|Maggi said on Sunday 01 December 2002

I lend offer Lotteries/Raffles/Giveaways/Tombolas ! And now I can stop!

KtS|Maggi said on Sunday 01 December 2002

yo geiL

kra|_|_e said on Monday 02 December 2002

why are you guys trying to stop ppl giving away bnc´s ? just let them be and concentrate on more important subjects, as childporn and other illegal stuff......

DoSa said on Monday 02 December 2002

That´s really good, If people wants bnc, BUY one or ask your friends like everybody else.

|Q| said on Tuesday 03 December 2002

#102: You should have been in #help and other \"major\" channels when people started the BNC lotteries, people went crazy spamming for them... Just look at S\'s new setting, any text that contains ad.free-root.com results in an immidiate kill without warning - because people thought \"Hey!\" why dont I be a little lamer and spam everyone\'s ass for my own benefit\"

Darkstar^ said on Wednesday 04 December 2002

i want a bnc !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HDW-Drugs said on Wednesday 04 December 2002

Thanks for this nice rule. This damn spamn was really annoying. BNCs are cheap so everyone can buy one or more for his clan. Thx again for this fine rule. :)

[baerbel]Sorc said on Wednesday 04 December 2002

SycoM (no not advertising here ;) also does BNC\'s, we did a give-away before, but after we see this we won\'t do it again.. Not interested in a channel ban (^_^) I think this is a good new rule, that will prolly make Quakenet a bit less spammy ;)

DaSniper said on Thursday 05 December 2002

nice rule i think the advertising for lotteries and shit like free-root.com is annoying .. @ KtS|Maggi if u want a bnc then buy one .. i think u live in germany so u can buy one from shelleurope.de for 1€ per month .. i think everyone can pay that

|Stinger| said on Thursday 05 December 2002

good work! it sux... bnc sux anyway

]p[sWiZZ said on Thursday 05 December 2002

thank god for that.

Hess- said on Thursday 05 December 2002

tbh i think the stuff about the lottery stuff is a good idea, but things like the \"this is what server im on\" aint really that bad if its controlled but good job on that advertising lark it gets on me nerves

mattey1 said on Friday 06 December 2002

oh also i wouldnt bother with a free bnc neway would prolly be rubbish or it just wouldnt happen at all :) i pay for mine :E

mattey1 said on Friday 06 December 2002

Well .. I think it\'ll be better, if u enrol the BNC Lotteries and Q-net checks the qualitiy of the Chan and of the Bouncer 4 example. That\'s greater 4 real good Lotteries.

FU|Weesly said on Saturday 07 December 2002

Glad this has happend. All those people who want a BNC, go and pay for it. I mean, come on, it\'s so cheap your Bank Manager won\'t even notice it. The more we rid QuakeNET of spam the more reliable the servers will be. I\'ve lost count the number of times I\'ve seen someone join a channel and say \'idle in # so I can get L/Q/Eggdrop/Bot. There\'s no point, if the channel is 2-3 peeps L/Q leaves and most bot channels check channels for activity.

ssmmdd said on Sunday 08 December 2002

Is it not possible 2 like hold a bnc lottery on another network and use the bncs on Qnet? I know my clan was looking 2 hold a bnc lottery but soon as we bought 100 bncs the Lottery ban started (ghey tbh) now we\'re just gunna do the good thing and give 10-15 to clans we like and think can do with them the most. Basically our clan now sponsors like 5 other clans. :)

PoopaScoopauk said on Sunday 08 December 2002

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raphidae said on Monday 09 December 2002

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KtS|Maggi said on Tuesday 10 December 2002

i think the quality of bncs which are given to users (lottery/sponsoring/or else) is not really the problem of qnet. its the problem of the user itself. i think this is a childish reason to justify theyre work on that rules. but i also think spamming is childish too. its maybe a try to stop that, but not a good one.

e-raw][zeero said on Thursday 12 December 2002

rather a kind my parents would do that (if wouldnt be over 18 ;) )

e-raw][zeero said on Thursday 12 December 2002

noo :(

Govannon said on Sunday 15 December 2002

Close the Lotteries!!

WOLF]|[Mad-Dog said on Tuesday 17 December 2002

God.. it\'s amusing to read all this funny comments ... rotfl.. \"We want a vote\" ... damn :D Freeroots etc. god.. that\'s crap, get the fact, it\'s bullsh.., most of the \"little\" BNC Providers are sh.. . Just get a good BNC from any \"proved\" Provider with \"big\" Trusts for 2 $ / € per Month and be happy.. damn.. boys

[WbC]Sephiroth said on Wednesday 18 December 2002

I got a free bounce in this way. IT was hard to follow the instructions since everything was in German, but I managed. :)

rask said on Monday 23 December 2002

very good decision. thank you

ISC|Freak said on Wednesday 01 January 2003

hmmm nice.... good for u

crazy^D_ said on Monday 06 January 2003

Nu`s Dar revin

dracusor|GK said on Wednesday 14 May 2003

Nu`s dar revin

dracusor|GK said on Wednesday 14 May 2003

blubb

ichwilldochnur said on Wednesday 30 July 2003

Bnc

creed1 said on Friday 16 January 2004

oh bea benım de BNC m olacaq zuahah #spy.tr

haci said on Saturday 26 June 2004

yeah! 5 or 5 bnc ? My channel #spy.tr :=) you are a channel ?

haci said on Saturday 26 June 2004

soryy ßaß :P what you channel..

haci said on Saturday 26 June 2004

There is so many BNC lotteries in Quakenet, why doesnt anyone remove the abusers?

m0dec said on Sunday 12 June 2005

JO cool! Leute

uw-root said on Friday 26 August 2005

i want to glad BNC recently. I would glad if you could supply me a BNC

z0nee said on Monday 17 October 2005

i want to glad use BNC recently. I would glad if you could supply me a BNC

z0nee said on Saturday 29 October 2005