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Netsplits

Posted by froo on Friday 30 August 2002

Apologies for this evening's netsplits, they were a combination of planned downtime and some attempted denial of service attacks which we will be closely following up with the proper authorities.

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thomas said on Friday 30 August 2002

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inselberg said on Friday 30 August 2002

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aut|trible said on Friday 30 August 2002

in my opinion it\'s not a DDoS against quakenet , but a more global scale ... If you take a look at http://www.internettrafficreport.com/ you\'ll know what i mean . :-)

MoZeS|UT said on Friday 30 August 2002

imo that is really lame that someone would dos quakenet, it just spoils it for the rest of us. Really pi**** me off.

BJE said on Friday 30 August 2002

#4: you seem to be right. /me is sad

Flash said on Friday 30 August 2002

#4 i think its right ... that let me think about kpn.qwest shutting down all its networks

BER|Spanier said on Friday 30 August 2002

:(

aut|trible said on Friday 30 August 2002

http://www.internettrafficreport.com/ i dont think they are right ... in the last time their scripts aren\'t working right :( i think its a attack to qnet ... :( #4 i think its right ... that let me think about kpn.qwest shutting down all its networks <-- i haven\'t read anything about it ...

realneo said on Friday 30 August 2002

i think it was mZ|j-cop ;> this leet haxx0r ! :>

mz|playaOne said on Friday 30 August 2002

OMG READ the webpage... right there on the traffic page to the right they say they have been \"Having technical Difficulties\" .. and if you\'re curious what they mean.. you could look at most of the routers with 100% packet loss and see that they have been that way since about 10 days ago. LMAO Christ! The entire world is losing almost 75% of its packets? you realize how many BILLIONS a day that would cost in duplicate BW? HAHA man put it on a web page and someone will beleive it... hahaha

Nostradom said on Friday 30 August 2002

[2:01am] looks like global warfare <- /me always believes data :)

MikeC said on Friday 30 August 2002

#4, I don\'t think that you\'re right, because packet loss, response time and traffic was much worse on tuesday (view 7-day graph). So there must have been any netsplits on tuesday... So it seems more realistic that it\'s a DOS attack against quakenet.

|-SatanClaus-| said on Friday 30 August 2002

i cant believe u wouldnt let me hav my quote on the cable w***ing planned now cuz it woz funny, if u come in 1 of our channels ud see y we call it that

VaMP666 said on Friday 30 August 2002

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e-raw][zeero said on Friday 30 August 2002

muh

[XT]Erzengel said on Friday 30 August 2002

i don\'t know if any hackers have something to do with all the netsplits (and servercrashes ?). in the last time really much server-admins just said \"DoS-attack by hackers\" when they apologized for problems with their service so don\'t worry about me when i say i don\'t believe you. but i don\'t ! it\'s pretty easy to blame some hackers for it when an upgrade or something is taking more time than it was planned to take and most it is done before checking this out or people even lie about it..

eXclusiveOR said on Friday 30 August 2002

You dont need to be a hacker. Its most probably some lame arse script kiddies.

James[UH] said on Friday 30 August 2002

seems, like qnet would get the same probs, ircnet had in 1998/1999... establishing a new network structure should help. but it also points out, that you can try protect systems from beeing hacked, but throtteling incoming traffic is much more difficult and starts with improved router setup at the providers... cause: if a lot of traffic is stopped at the provider\'s corerouter... it wont bother the host, which is to be flooded. other idea: use other phys if for linking and user conn.

blackwing said on Friday 30 August 2002

Some poor-abused-as-babies-lamerz or something...? Just is look at the calendar. Summer is over and schools have started. Now those poor poor scriptkids actually have to do something during the daytime and it upsets their weak little mental balance! =) DALNet has reported rather massive attacks against it too. This is all very sad. I hope that someday those poor lamerz will grow out of it and maybe get a real life too while at it. =) --- I had a Real Life once, now I have a Computer

G4BB3RN4U7 said on Friday 30 August 2002

:( i hope you can handle these problems very fast and we can enjoy chatting again :] and hopefully we will not end like DALNet ;)

pickel said on Friday 30 August 2002

Most servers are not blocking ICMP. I think you need to enforce this.

MatiX said on Friday 30 August 2002

wee...netsplit ... time to go out in the sun o_O

blun4 said on Friday 30 August 2002

the worst part is, that attacks like these (ddos) cause, that in 1999 some of the main contributors of ircnet said: \"no support any longer\", which caused major incoveniences for the entire network, cause they lost some of their main hubs (like gmd, bonn)... so lets hope, that something like this wont happen... setup firewalls and discuss with the connectivity providers about protections from their side (like qos quotas)...

blackwing said on Friday 30 August 2002

Oh we\'ve been DDos\'d before and will be DDos\'d again no doubt. However they are just minor hiccups that we always fix as we tend to know what we are doing :) I\'ve caused more network problems with a /die in the wrong terminal window - \"err where did hub just go? ....\"

Zarjazz said on Friday 30 August 2002

i think the admins really know what to do 8)

blun4 said on Friday 30 August 2002

Zarj is a helper? nooo! ;) At the end of the day, Quakenet can only do as much as is humanly possible. Quakenet is here to keep its users happy and will continue to grow and do so, regardless of spineless attacks by faceless morons. Ditto with Dalnet. I sincerely hope that perhaps Qnet and Dalnet can put some resources together, perhaps to help prevent such attacks in the future. Even with firewalls, a powerful DDoS attack will make networks suffer. Its a shame, but Qnet will do all they can.

Kryten said on Friday 30 August 2002

helper? helper! /me kicks the website monkeys .. (can I have the color red please :)

Zarjazz said on Friday 30 August 2002

Fixed. No idea how that happened ;)

Yarn said on Friday 30 August 2002

can someone tell when all splitts will be fixed ???

|-FI-|Dark said on Friday 30 August 2002

I think its fixed allready

[pfac]PsyCHo said on Friday 30 August 2002

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pBb|br4iN said on Friday 30 August 2002

jep, preventing ddos is very difficult. but it starts with firewalls and ends with filters and bandwidth control at the provider\'s router. because: preventing ddos at the target is more difficult, than cutting the traffic down somewhere in the flow! there ARE possibilities, buts its a lot of work and requires providers who are willing to change lots of routing paramaters... because: traffic is money :P

blackwing said on Friday 30 August 2002

thank you :D i hardly lost my channel because quakenet seems to be too silly to reop my bots after a netsplit, but hey, L and Q still suck and wont find the way in my chan :P

blash2003 said on Friday 30 August 2002

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James[UH] said on Friday 30 August 2002

Whats the point of trying to hack/attack sometihng. In the end you don\'t look good to many people by shouting \"I R TEH L33t !!1 I R H4X3d j00 NEWBZ!!\"....well apart from your followers. If things like this cause major disruption on a network, many people do get peeved off as they sometimes may nto be able to log on. h4x0r sucks :P

Xniper said on Friday 30 August 2002

Somebody please explain to me, why will people keep on attacking *free* services? Does that do any good? No. It doesn\'t even help the attackers because most people will hate them. I suggest to the attackers to get a life and do something with it. PS. #35: don\'t.

JaSt said on Friday 30 August 2002

its done again :( :| gl quakenet get it back on track

FtK^Blanch said on Friday 30 August 2002

Seems worse than last night atm.

Kilou said on Friday 30 August 2002

#39: The huge split that just happened was on purpose.. pre-emptive measures against surther attacks.

MikeC said on Friday 30 August 2002

Yeah, it was a really stormy night :)

|VK|Sorcer said on Friday 30 August 2002

ever since that stupid netsplit i cant get back into quakenet.everytime itry to connect it says* Connecting to us.quakenet.org (6668) - * Unable to connect (Connection refused)thats pasted by the way. what do i do? please help cos i use qnet for a lot of importanty things..

morfee said on Friday 30 August 2002

morfee, in case us.quakenet.org doesn\'t work, use another server (from the serverlist), or even irc.quakenet.org . You\'ll maybe get a bit more lag, but it will work until us works again :)

RaB-NaXo said on Friday 30 August 2002

* Connect retry #2 irc.quakenet.eu.org (6668) - * Unable to connect (Connection refused) - * Connect retry #3 81.91.66.213 (6668) - * Unable to connect (Connection refused) - * Connect retry #4 se.quakenet.org (6668) - * Unable to connect (Connection refused) - * Connect retry #5 213.131.131.156 (6668) - * Unable to connect (Connection refused) - * Connect retry #6 uk.quakenet.org (6668) - * Unable to connect (Connection refused) i know how to do all this,im not a newbie.whe

morfee said on Friday 30 August 2002

can anyone help?

morfee said on Friday 30 August 2002

I hope we won\'t get something like the past ETG attacks.... after all the FBI caughted the hax0r and he was a 14 year old child who was told to stop several times by the FBI... really lame :|

ZombiekE said on Friday 30 August 2002

Why can\'t it be an end of all these DDOS\'es... /me sighs... oh well, keep up the good work opers, you did this covering-up process really good. /me hugs *!*@*.quakenet.org Remember to drink your milk.

alpha said on Friday 30 August 2002

people who practice ddos\'ing clearly didn\'t have enough milk from mom in their childhood, or are not going to have enough milk in their childhood.

raz said on Friday 30 August 2002

Only test

|BD|h40 said on Friday 30 August 2002

Well, it seems like QuakeNET survived after all. good job, admins and others :)

Nomad said on Saturday 31 August 2002

wohooooo, I got the helper color tooo !!

Nomad said on Saturday 31 August 2002

You should be lucky you have a color =)

[Darko] said on Saturday 31 August 2002

=)

chronoss said on Saturday 31 August 2002

May all of those DDoS attackers suffer a painful and horrible death and a long-lasting life in hell! ROAR!

anzuhan said on Saturday 31 August 2002

What\'s DDoS?

Forcer| said on Saturday 31 August 2002

Forcer, Distribute Denial of Service. Basically, getting lots (normally talking about thousands) of machines to send information to a specified machine to overwelm it, and usually take it \'offline\' so usuable to us. In the case of quakenet, you wont be able to connect to. There are variants of it, but all have that one goal.

salteh said on Saturday 31 August 2002

I am glad you told us cos i thought it was my ZX spectrum which was playing up :)

SuBzErO^ said on Saturday 31 August 2002

omfg :)

cYr`Blade said on Saturday 31 August 2002

its a safety problem from quakenet :-p

ikays said on Saturday 31 August 2002

noone can beat quakenet, uh? =)

blun4 said on Saturday 31 August 2002

Did QuakeNet&#180;s Servers/Shells.. not have a firewall.. or something,? where the hacker&#180;s IP was writed down, in a log file? then QuakeNet could go the hacker&#180;s ISP? and report it to them..? - that would be nice.. if the hackers internet be closed. then they dont can hack anymore... =)

DarkDeviL said on Saturday 31 August 2002

#61: 1. Your talking about Crackers (or Scriptkiddies), but certainly not about Hackers. 2. Even if the attacked qnet Servers had a firewall/paketfilter, the resulting logs would fill up the disk space really fast. 3. In a dDoS attack, the attacker won\'t take part in the flood. He simply says his flooding nodes (e.g. a cracked server here, a trojaned workstation there ...) to start the flooding and then leans back and watch the netsplits.

Soohrt said on Saturday 31 August 2002

@ blun4: quakenet was beaten

ikays said on Sunday 01 September 2002

#62: ahh... \"hacker&#180;s\" = \"cracker&#180;s\" in #61 so =) i call it at the most time.. for \"hacker&#180;s\" :( i dont know why.. maybe its reason.. in the TV.. they all the time.. says when some jobs.. be cracked.. there they says.. that they has been hacked.. maybe its that reason to i use \"hacked/hacker(s)\"... - Sorry the fail...

DarkDeviL said on Sunday 01 September 2002

Every day a Netsplit =(

Sigger said on Sunday 01 September 2002

uh? no that was not beaten. that were some stupid scriptkiddies at the age of fifteen, who just wanted to show their power...gl+hf to them, and let their dad have a thick wallet ...

blun4 said on Sunday 01 September 2002

yeah every day a netsplit, but it themes, there are other problems, too, first time i tried to log in here, i got logged in as an \'underke\'(or something like that, but i don\'t know him or his password... mfg -ti

iw|Tiberius said on Sunday 01 September 2002

imo dDoS attacks sux. Are they any good, and for who? What most ppl dont see, is that every dDoS attack can(with time and the right ressurces) be traced to the person(s) who sent them to the peers... /me looks around and yells: Hate those fucking lamers!... /me kisses *!*@*.quakenet.org and says: love you sweety, nothing bad is going to happen to you, when i\'m done with those lamers (that is, if i get my hands on them)

zybercore said on Sunday 01 September 2002

#68: yes, i will also very good, know WHO dDoS are good for... - for them there make them? i hate dDoS, i hate netsplits... i love QuakeNet... QuakeNet are my home network, like a eggdrop&#180;s home channel.... =) - i hate crackers.. i hate them there make dDoS.. i hate them there do something bad.

DarkDeviL said on Sunday 01 September 2002

Hate everything about hackers/crackers/lamers-who-thing-they-are-cool-because-they-can-launch-a-dDoS-attack-on-QuakeNET ? <- /me nods his head and says: yeah!

zybercore said on Sunday 01 September 2002

ugh that so painfully lame looking you people DO realize \"/me\" doesn\'t work out side of an irc client normaly right? What next? you\'re going to start putting them in school / business reports?

Nostradom said on Sunday 01 September 2002

moep!!! i\'m proud to be a quakenet user ;) (that\'s why i spend not many/much(?) time @ my pc)

sn0t said on Sunday 01 September 2002

i don&#180;t understand the sense in DoS attack. On IRCnet the \"l33t hackers\", how they call themselves, get serverops & do take channel due to netsplits. but on Quakenet there are Services. i do not understand what use it is to let the servers split. .../quit :)

jo|-|n said on Sunday 01 September 2002

What really is a netsplit? 2 or more quakenet networks aren\'t connected to eechother?

KRaMoN said on Sunday 01 September 2002

Fu, I cant connect anymore, WTF is going on.

UltraSkill said on Sunday 01 September 2002

#74 yep Specceh whats going on about teh netsplits... everyday aint fun :/

TheDevil said on Sunday 01 September 2002

#70,#73 - my opinion :) #74 if u use mIRC, you should read ircintro.hlp ... interesting facts about netsplits! #75 - thank the scriptkiddies :) say fu to them :>

blun4 said on Monday 02 September 2002

Oh Guys, a BIG Netsplit happend only seconds ago, EACH Q-Net Server is Down, without exil.se ..... What happend to Q-Net !?!?! JMan

JMan said on Monday 02 September 2002

I don\'t know JMan...after half an hour of trying ou Qnet servers, I could connect to one...finally ;)

God_of_Ice said on Monday 02 September 2002

netsplit yes, but uh, i have never been disconnected tho

Abatcher said on Monday 02 September 2002

Could we have an official word on what is happening to quakenet and what has happened to quakenet over the past week and today(sept 2nd). We know quakenet was DoSed, is it still being done? Who was it by? Is it going to stop etc.. What&#146;s happening guys (And girl)..?

BJE said on Monday 02 September 2002

This isn\'t offical. I suspect that exact details of whats happening won\'t be given out until the proper precautions have been taken and relevant authorities have taken action. I suspect we may suffer some more problems, similar to what we have been seeing recently. I hope everyone will ride it out, I\'m sure it won\'t go on too much.

salteh said on Monday 02 September 2002

lol! only 225 users on qnet. im in #sk #nordic #dkh #mtw alone :))

w|sCrat`da said on Tuesday 03 September 2002

#73, I doubt anybody does this to get op in a channel really. I assume that somebody just enjoy the chaos. We aren\'t talking about somebody making a DoS attack from an adsl connection or similar - This is pretty much bigger than that.

i|Avatar said on Wednesday 04 September 2002

Only reason I could think of why this happened, would be that some jealous luser(tm) from some small, not known network (like IRCnet or Dalnet) didn\'t like that we were the #1 network in whole world. This is sad, because we all know that Quakenet is the #1 network in the whole world, and therefore we will be the main target for those jealous lusers(tm) from small networks. ;< Oh, and if YOU HACKER are reading this, I am not telling you that my real IP is 127.0.0.1!!11

Shadow said on Wednesday 04 September 2002

shadows b0xx0r g0t 0wnz0r3d by t3h h4xx0rz (:

alpha said on Wednesday 04 September 2002

Shadow sugguested Qnet was being attacked by jealous lusers(tm) because Qnet is growing so quickly. While this is true I still believe Qnet has a lot of growing to do as it only has servers widespread over Europe. If it can push further into the Americas it could easily double the number of users! The only drawback would seem to be the script kiddies which seem to be in abundance stateside, hiding behind their \"13-year-old-unprosecutable-unless-$5000-of-damage-has-been-done\" sheen of security

Chubzee said on Wednesday 04 September 2002

#87: DDoSes can cost far more than $5000 of \'damage\' also we are slowly expanding into the US, but we\'ve not managed to grow beyond one server. We are still trying for quality not quantity ;)

Yarn said on Wednesday 04 September 2002

I first thought it was technical probs. But now I think it was attacks, cause its unrealistic that tech probs would stay as long as the netsplits has occured. My clan was not very pleased, but we were lucky that we had at this time no incs in the game we play (I know from other clans THEY had, and its not funny if communications shut down - f*** hackers =( )

Limu`-|zocken said on Tuesday 10 September 2002

Well, Well just wait a while and see what happens :)

Sverker said on Saturday 14 September 2002

I relly hope u fix this problem quik so we can chat propoly =)

Ogri_zet^ said on Wednesday 18 September 2002

also wouldnt it be annoying if you were trying to get L then a netsplit suddenly happened on the server that you were on? the other night i see Q stuck in a netsplit because i couldnt auth.

Rivernile said on Friday 27 September 2002